On this episode of the Human Unicorn Podcast, Nihal Mehta sits down with Amar Varma — co-founder of Mantle, Autonomic (acquired by Ford), Xtreme Labs (acquired by Pivotal), father of 4, and longtime builder of Toronto’s tech ecosystem. From pioneering mobile app development before the iPhone App Store existed, to scaling two of Canada’s most successful exits, Amar shares what it really takes to build durable companies outside Silicon Valley.